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obama and biden want to raise taxes by $8 trillion. guess what, yes, we do. gerri: i mean, really? really? can he not stop himself? but does it mean for the debate. >> well, i think it is one of the run the arguments. i want to cut taxes, president obama wants to raise taxes. historically that has been a devastating argument. for the president and joe biden to talk about raising taxes when you have millions and millions of americans out of work, it does not seem to work, and everyone knows the actual tax hikes will do almost nothing for the deficit. so it is just kind of catnip for the left. let's raise taxes on the rich. class warfare. i don't think it is a successful economic strategy, and i'm not sure it will or politically either. gerri: interesting days. that is for sure. you will have you back to talk more. when we come back to be searching for a deal, but prescription drugs online presents a all new sets of problems. we will explain. an age-old question resurfacing. can women have it all? are we dissing mother had? this is going to be a panel. you will love it. it will be a
obama and biden want to raise taxes by $8 trillion. guess what, yes, we do. gerri: i mean, really? really? can he not stop himself? but does it mean for the debate. >> well, i think it is one of the run the arguments. i want to cut taxes, president obama wants to raise taxes. historically that has been a devastating argument. for the president and joe biden to talk about raising taxes when you have millions and millions of americans out of work, it does not seem to work, and everyone...
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turned it back so the debates wouldn't be lethal to the incumbent president, this time, i think joe biden, he has flaws, his establish isn't precise some time but up against a guy child kind of a cold customer, i think he can beat him in terms of likablability if he stays joe biden out there and remains cool and not cold, putting an arm and grabbing you and saying how are you, and how is your mother, haven't seen here in a while, a very personal appeal, i wish he was doing a, biden was doing a tom hall setting, he would shine. >> i think president needs to b a bill oprah and clinton, watch the game films from bill clinton the way he talked to the young fearch woman in 1982, he embraced inner, where george senior, yes, where george seen wrote was saying i don't think you know what the word debt means or deficit, it was like he was questioning her competence with the language instead of saying let me help you. and bill clinton says let me help you, i have people in a small state where somebody is in trouble we know it and know it personally and i will know you personally if i am president,
turned it back so the debates wouldn't be lethal to the incumbent president, this time, i think joe biden, he has flaws, his establish isn't precise some time but up against a guy child kind of a cold customer, i think he can beat him in terms of likablability if he stays joe biden out there and remains cool and not cold, putting an arm and grabbing you and saying how are you, and how is your mother, haven't seen here in a while, a very personal appeal, i wish he was doing a, biden was doing a...
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>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because t
>> you may have overlooked the fact that for the last few weeks i've been joe biden. so -- >> mr. olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and...
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justify raiding taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been "buried." we agree. >> let's bring in the news nation political panel, associate editor and columnist for the "washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene robinson, abby stoddard, columnist for the hill, michael spir mitt romney is con nish, talk show host and chip saltzman, strategist. i would like to start off with you, is it fair to compare the two tape you the president's tape the conservatives were talking about since last night and the video of congressman ryan saying you 30% of people want to live their lives on welfare is it fair to compare these tapes, especially given the president's tape, then-senator obama, was covered by the media then? >> it a beautiful day in denver today, tamron. first of all. >> nice weather report, eugene. >> obama says nothing new on the tape and it was covered years aleen sirgany but fair it is all fair in politics. if it's on tape, you can put it out. the way it was put out by t
justify raiding taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been "buried." we agree. >> let's bring in the news nation political panel, associate editor and columnist for the "washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene robinson, abby stoddard, columnist for the hill, michael spir mitt romney is con nish, talk show host and chip saltzman, strategist. i...
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. >> rick: let's start with politics and the vice president biden and republican vice presidential paul ryan b to talk in the important battleground state of ohio making his way here from a campaign vent in new hampshire today. busy weekend for the congressman, followed up by appearance tomorrow on fox news sunday with chris wallace. meantime, vice president biden attending an event in florida, talked about medicare, sailing that he and the president have strengthed the program and extended its life. >> arthel: as the campaigns crisscross key battleground states voter registration problems widening. questionable forms, eric shawn live in new york city with more. >> reporter: remember voter registration fraud was a huge scandal in tate. it helped lead to the demise of acorn. now suspected fraud has hit again this time connected to a republican connected-firm, 10 florida counties now reporting possible problems. the company strategic allied consulting was hired in five battleground states now fired by the republican national committee and several state parties after over 100 suspect signa
. >> rick: let's start with politics and the vice president biden and republican vice presidential paul ryan b to talk in the important battleground state of ohio making his way here from a campaign vent in new hampshire today. busy weekend for the congressman, followed up by appearance tomorrow on fox news sunday with chris wallace. meantime, vice president biden attending an event in florida, talked about medicare, sailing that he and the president have strengthed the program and...
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has a better image than joe biden. so if joe biden is the answer, i don't know what the question is. and secondly, look, senior citizens, republicans have to -- we've had decades of dealing with democratic demagogue on senior issues whether it's social security or medicare or both. so we're well aware of look the first page in democratic campaign plans is minority turnout plans. the first plan in republicans is how do we not get hurt among senior citizens. so the campaigns are very aware of. we have messages we've tested in response. you test the attack that the democrats use, and yes, it is effective. you test a democratic attack versus a republican response attack and it plays to a tie. so i don't think it's going to be the game changer for the house that the democrats think that it is. the one thing to keep an eye on more than senior citizens are those 65 to 64-year-old. they're already getting social security. they know that the rug is not going to be pulled out from under them because there will be a huge price to
has a better image than joe biden. so if joe biden is the answer, i don't know what the question is. and secondly, look, senior citizens, republicans have to -- we've had decades of dealing with democratic demagogue on senior issues whether it's social security or medicare or both. so we're well aware of look the first page in democratic campaign plans is minority turnout plans. the first plan in republicans is how do we not get hurt among senior citizens. so the campaigns are very aware of. we...
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too joe biden is talking about the record of the obama-biden administration saying they are buried. jamie: will the president have tee dress this tonight? will he have to talk about why the middle class was -- will he distance himself from his policies playing a role. >> he may have to put context into biden's statement. >> why is it that whenever this administration, whether it's the president or joe biden actually tells the truth. they tell you what's on their mind like the president saying that the private sector is doing fine or telling entrepreneurs like me that we didn't build our business. why is it when they tell the truth suddenly they are taken out of context. >> there you go again to quote one of our great republican presidents. you note context of that. >> the context was worse than what he said. he said you entrepreneurs put out your chest, you think you are so smart, but you didn't build it. that's the context. >> you left out what he was talking about before that and that was not the tone of his voice. you are not only misrepresenting -- you are myth representing the
too joe biden is talking about the record of the obama-biden administration saying they are buried. jamie: will the president have tee dress this tonight? will he have to talk about why the middle class was -- will he distance himself from his policies playing a role. >> he may have to put context into biden's statement. >> why is it that whenever this administration, whether it's the president or joe biden actually tells the truth. they tell you what's on their mind like the...
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the first presidential debate now just hours away as vice president joe biden makes a comment that gives his republic republican rivals new ammunition, and conservatives circulate a five-year-old video in a move the obama campaign call desperate. >>> nbc news investigates why the smoke detector in your home may not work in a fire. a report that could save you and your family. >>> and online attack. on-air response. a local news anchor takes to the airwaves to fire back at a viewer who slammed her for her weight. >> well, you know nothing about me but what you see on the outside, and i am much more than a number on a scale. >> we'll talk to her today, wednesday, october 3rd, 2012. >>> from nbc news, this is "today" with matt lauer and savannah guthrie live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> and good morning. welcome to "today" on a wednesday morning. i'm savannah guthrie. >> and i'm david gregory in for matt this morning. if you love politics, this is it. the stage is set. the first big presidential debate. the showdown in denver between president obama and republican challenger mit
the first presidential debate now just hours away as vice president joe biden makes a comment that gives his republic republican rivals new ammunition, and conservatives circulate a five-year-old video in a move the obama campaign call desperate. >>> nbc news investigates why the smoke detector in your home may not work in a fire. a report that could save you and your family. >>> and online attack. on-air response. a local news anchor takes to the airwaves to fire back at a...
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and whether joe biden feels like he has to compensate for what president obama did not bring to the first debate and whether that causes trouble because, you know, he on least and then say some things that also cause trouble for the obama campaign. lou: you just excited the nation . watching uni right now at the prospect of that. that can be glorious in so many different ways. that comes up next week. our coverage, as always. john kerry coached the president. rob portman coached the governor. we get the feeling that he will be back. carry remains an open question, doesn't it? >> i think the senator will still be the sparring partner from everything we're hearing from the obama folks. i talked to portman in the spin room for a while. and he said that we are not surprised. not one thing. the only thing that we are surprised that is what they didn't hear. know nothing of the 47% take, nothing of bain capital shimano attacks. they were surprised at how passive the president was, and he said frankly the president was not as good as me. lou: well, modest assessment, appropriately. a sparring pa
and whether joe biden feels like he has to compensate for what president obama did not bring to the first debate and whether that causes trouble because, you know, he on least and then say some things that also cause trouble for the obama campaign. lou: you just excited the nation . watching uni right now at the prospect of that. that can be glorious in so many different ways. that comes up next week. our coverage, as always. john kerry coached the president. rob portman coached the governor....
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although by then senator joe biden and governor sarah palin in 2008. at 10:15 eastern, vice-president george bush and represent -- rep ferraro from 1984. and dan quayle and benson from 1980. to that of facebook, we are asking what is your favorite vice president joe moment -- today on facebook, we are asking what is your david vice- presidentiafavorite vice presidl moment. >> sees bank is a great look into what is happening -- c-span gives a great look into what is happening in washington. it is very objective and shows a lot of what is real and what is going on. i watched hearings on c-span. also when the supreme court has hearings, we watch different decisions and opinions on c- span. >> she watches c-span on direct tv. c-span, created by america's cable companies in 1979, brought to you as a public service by your television provider. in his weekly address, president obama talks about the jobs report released yesterday, showing the unemployment rate down to 7.8%. he is followed by the republican response given by the rnc chair. >> hi, everybody. fou
although by then senator joe biden and governor sarah palin in 2008. at 10:15 eastern, vice-president george bush and represent -- rep ferraro from 1984. and dan quayle and benson from 1980. to that of facebook, we are asking what is your favorite vice president joe moment -- today on facebook, we are asking what is your david vice- presidentiafavorite vice presidl moment. >> sees bank is a great look into what is happening -- c-span gives a great look into what is happening in...
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who is the running mate, biden or clinton? >> biden is definitely the running mate. look, as the former president and as a former president two terms that the party is willing to put out there. the difference is george b. bush is a two-term president. the republican party does not have george w. bush on the trail, despite the fact that mr. romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic times and you put him on the trail. >> it's amazing you how that turn-around in this relationship. what's going through bill clinton's head? >> we can only imagine. don't fill in the blanks. >> shameless plugs. >> we have a good story today about how the problem with mitt romney is actually mitt romney and less about the campaign. >> mitt romney said it himself. >> chris christie best job with his ratings in his term. >> and for my colleague? >> of course, saturday and sunday 10:00 a.m. to noon. we're going to talk about this week in voter suppression and more education nation on the show. >> thank y
who is the running mate, biden or clinton? >> biden is definitely the running mate. look, as the former president and as a former president two terms that the party is willing to put out there. the difference is george b. bush is a two-term president. the republican party does not have george w. bush on the trail, despite the fact that mr. romney has many bush advisers particularly in foreign policy. there's nothing like someone that held that office during good economic times and you put...
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. >> i love joe biden. he said something on the campaign trail something yesterday and the republicans were quick to pounce. let's listen to what he said. >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify, raising attacks on the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> and this is how paul ryan responded. >> i thought he was taking my speech. you know what? we agree. the middle class has been buried over the last four years. they're being buried by obama care, by borrowing, taxes, spending, more regulations, all this uncertainty plaguing businesses. the way to fix this is stop this and elect mitt romney. >> on the joe biden, gaffe meter, how big of a gaffe is this? >> joe biden gaffe meter? that's probably different. probably a six for a non-joe biden it would probably be an eight. come on, joe biden makes some great ones. you know, i thought it was interesting yesterday, the amount of conference cal
. >> i love joe biden. he said something on the campaign trail something yesterday and the republicans were quick to pounce. let's listen to what he said. >> this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how they can justify, raising attacks on the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts? >> and this is how paul ryan responded. >> i thought he was taking my speech. you know what? we...
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the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better prepared. however, ryan is in the shoes president obama was in last night and the expectations are high for ryan. i think most people feel that paul ryan will walk joe biden's dog in this debate, and that's a down for him. i would venture that the vice presidential debate may get the largest audience of any vice presidential de debate we've had so far. >> in 2008 with the introduction of sarah palin was the first time the vice presidential debate was ever the highest 01:39:43:rate ed debate. we have this again. >> governor romney, last night, people say he mangled the t
the stakes are raised now for the paul ryan versus joe biden debate. the obama campaign i don't think can afford the perception that they lost two in a row. i would think vice president joe biden's fingernails are beginning to sweat about next wednesday because he's somewhat in the same position as president obama. he's been vice president in for four years. had a lot of things going. been a long time since he's debated. paul ryan has been in the cut and thrust of congress, to be better...
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. >> reporter: vice president joe biden campaigned in battled ground florida, where he argued that the obama administration inherited trillion-dollar deficits from the bush administration. >> they put two wars on a credit card, not paying a penny, not paying a penny. >> reid: meanwhile be president obama and mitt romney were hunkered down today cramming for next week's debate showdown. both sides are working hard to lower expect aches by praising their opponents. a romney adviser says the president has the advantage as one of the most talented political communicators in modern history. the obama campaign says romney has the agent having debated about two dozen times during the republican primary campaign. >> both of these individuals are had ample experience debating but governor romney has had more practice recently and practice helps. >> kathleen hall jamieson kathls the nonpartisan annenberg center. >> the challenger has the opportunity to establish he is competent to stand up and hold his own against the president of the united states. a challenger who accomplishes that in effect w
. >> reporter: vice president joe biden campaigned in battled ground florida, where he argued that the obama administration inherited trillion-dollar deficits from the bush administration. >> they put two wars on a credit card, not paying a penny, not paying a penny. >> reid: meanwhile be president obama and mitt romney were hunkered down today cramming for next week's debate showdown. both sides are working hard to lower expect aches by praising their opponents. a romney...
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you have joe biden who is everyone's uncle, for better or worse. >> who knows what he'll say? >> who knows what he'll say? >> people should be watching. this is part of the great debate we're having in this country. every little bit matters. 30 days away. >> john, our thanks to you. abc news will have live coverage of the vice presidential debate on thursday at 9:00 p.m. with diane sawyer and george stephanopoulos. >>> a lot of other news breaking overnight. for that, as always, we go to mr. ron claiborne. good morning to you, sir. >> good morning, dan and bianna. breaking news from right here in new york city. five terror suspects extradited from britain are on new york soil. the men arrived in new york city early this morning. two will be in court later today in connecticut. the best known of them is abu hamza al masri. he is charged for trying to set up a terrorist training camp in oregon and helping to abduct hostages in 1998. >>> and we have breaking news out of the vatican, that scandal that rocked the vatican. pope benedict's butler convicted this morning of stealing th
you have joe biden who is everyone's uncle, for better or worse. >> who knows what he'll say? >> who knows what he'll say? >> people should be watching. this is part of the great debate we're having in this country. every little bit matters. 30 days away. >> john, our thanks to you. abc news will have live coverage of the vice presidential debate on thursday at 9:00 p.m. with diane sawyer and george stephanopoulos. >>> a lot of other news breaking overnight. for...
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and so does joe biden against paul ryan in kentucky. >> it's all about the undecided voters. we have one more jobs report after this one. let's assume that the economy remains tepid and growing slowly. how much does a small drop in the unemployment rate help undecided voters? >> it creates a psychological barrier, breaking below 8%. and the issue is less the actual number than the trend. and the fact is we're moving in the right direction. not as fast as some folks would like. but it gives reason for hope. again, this is a statistical tallsman that tells people we're moving in the right direction. >> talk about the vice presidential debate coming up this thursday. is that likely to have any impact on the interior of this race? >> it could have one. if paul ryan wins this debate, that gives the romney camp a strong argument. mitt romney trying to move towards the center. there's going to be a lot of fireworks. you have a policy wonk in paul ryan. you have joe biden who is everyone's uncle, for better or worse. >> who knows what he'll say? >> every little bit matters. 30 days a
and so does joe biden against paul ryan in kentucky. >> it's all about the undecided voters. we have one more jobs report after this one. let's assume that the economy remains tepid and growing slowly. how much does a small drop in the unemployment rate help undecided voters? >> it creates a psychological barrier, breaking below 8%. and the issue is less the actual number than the trend. and the fact is we're moving in the right direction. not as fast as some folks would like. but...
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huge huge arsenal that the republicans have against a bit barack obama and democrats how about what biden said that the middle class has been buried over the past four years you know that's true i totally agree and that's obama's fault you know i mean that you know this time i'll let you know how about libya that has failed to be addressed the idea that we had warning and we didn't do anything about it that's huge and the media out there during nine eleven saying the same thing when we had you know some notice that something was going on there that you castigate congolese or rice and president bush and vice president cheney are using this for partisan politics you have nine eleven that set a precedent that was that now on nine eleven two thousand we're going to be alert as anywhere but you know that was what was on may first the nine eleven was going to happen may first the book just came out a week and a half ago we had the new york times reporter kurt eichenwald on the program here for a half hour made for freedom of information act they laid it out they even identified who the people w
huge huge arsenal that the republicans have against a bit barack obama and democrats how about what biden said that the middle class has been buried over the past four years you know that's true i totally agree and that's obama's fault you know i mean that you know this time i'll let you know how about libya that has failed to be addressed the idea that we had warning and we didn't do anything about it that's huge and the media out there during nine eleven saying the same thing when we had you...
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but you know, for those us in the press that is the nice thing about joe biden. he is always sort of ad-libbing and giving us great things to write about. gregg: that updates the biden gaffe clock that the rnc always run on their website. paul ryan seems to have recalculated the infamous 47% remark that, hess running mate uttered. take a listen to this. >> today, 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue we're already past that tippingpoint. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right, 70-30 country. 70% of the americans want the american dream. they believe the in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. what that tells us at least half of those people currently in that category are there not of their wish or their will. gregg: is this doubling down on the entitlement dependency argument? i know parenthetically our own "fox news poll" found 63% of the americans who indeed agree with the argument that too many folks in
but you know, for those us in the press that is the nice thing about joe biden. he is always sort of ad-libbing and giving us great things to write about. gregg: that updates the biden gaffe clock that the rnc always run on their website. paul ryan seems to have recalculated the infamous 47% remark that, hess running mate uttered. take a listen to this. >> today, 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue...
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the fact we've got biden's going to be great. if nothing else i guarantee you it will be very entertaining to watch joe biden and paul ryan. and there again, i think there is an opportunity to -- i think romney's gotten some deserved momentum out of -- he had a very strong performance. he's gotten a momentum. i think his campaign is trying to figure out how to keep that momentum going into next week. the debate might be where that momentum is blunted a little bit. joe biden is going to say look, paul, how much time do you need? here's a white board. here's a pen. how much time do you need to do the math? we're here for you. let's work it out. >> hey rich, how much in terms of paul ryan, how much do you think is resting on his shoulders? how do you think he's going to fare against joe biden? he's a lot younger, doesn't have as much debate experience. >> that's not true. they're both members of congress. they have a lot of debate -- that's what you do in congress whether it's in committee or on the floor. i think they will both be
the fact we've got biden's going to be great. if nothing else i guarantee you it will be very entertaining to watch joe biden and paul ryan. and there again, i think there is an opportunity to -- i think romney's gotten some deserved momentum out of -- he had a very strong performance. he's gotten a momentum. i think his campaign is trying to figure out how to keep that momentum going into next week. the debate might be where that momentum is blunted a little bit. joe biden is going to say...